So science has come from that, which is why really bringing them back together again isвЂ¦ Well, together again is not really right because whatвЂ™s happened is that in the whole culture things differentiate, you just go back to everything that comes from one thing. So what you see is the resurgence of pagan, I think itвЂ™s called pagan wisdom, the ancient Greeks, the ancient Egyptians, which surfaced again in Italy in the Renaissance, gave birth to the modern world, which led to Galileo and Descartes, and then the enlightenment, and now to this incredible world where we can talk and completely opposite side of the world, and yet we can be as if weвЂ™re in the same room together. And alchemy is really kД“me, itвЂ™s the ancient Egyptian, kД“me is Egypt, it came from the ancient Egyptian wisdom. I mean, science came from somewhere and where it came from was esoteric studies, it came from alchemy and became chemistry, and itвЂ™s in the word, thatвЂ™s where it comes from. We live through our sensations or imaginations, but in it is that alchemical recognition that there is sort of a woven tapestry of sorts of how we maneuver through time and space and what it means. This reminds me of the alchemical aspect of the hermetic practices and our own sensations that arise. I am going to segue because this reminds me of the hermetic stuff. So what IвЂ™d be looking for is how can I bring together these powerful spiritual insights, which IвЂ™ve been studying for the last decades, all my life, alongside all of these incredible physical and biological insights, which science has got to offer us because my feeling is is in my actual experience of reality, they fit together. ThereвЂ™s no meaning, thereвЂ™s no purpose, and none of that is true in my experience of life. And so the view which I come across a lot now is life in the universe is amazing and all of the rest of it, but the downside is weвЂ™re on a little rock in the middle of nowhere, hurtling through empty space, here for a few decades long enough to go, вЂњWhat the heck?вЂќ And then weвЂ™re gone, and thatвЂ™s it. Well thatвЂ™s the soul, and thatвЂ™s been the area that spirituality has been studying forever, but what the view thatвЂ™s being pushed forward now is that really is just a byproduct of the body, and what that does is it devalues it, and it takes meaning away from life because all the meaning is in the soul. It exists in the imagination, the world of images. And that is not something which exists in the world. And quite literally itвЂ™s taken the soul, I mean by the word soul for me, what I mean by that is the psyche, which is the ancient Greek word for soul, which we use today often, this other dimension that you and I are having this conversation, where my mouth moves, thereвЂ™s meaning, which you are understanding from the sounds IвЂ™m making. Quite rightfully, itвЂ™s given us the internet to label us to do this, itвЂ™s achievements are immense, but itвЂ™s come at a price because itвЂ™s very good explaining how things work and it canвЂ™t address why things exist, and itвЂ™s created a spiritual vacuum. Well, I think in the intellectual mainstream, and of course thatвЂ™s not really the majority, but it does govern how culture sees itself, weвЂ™ve seen the rise of science. You say contemporary society has experienced a soul crisis. ItвЂ™s a pleasure to be here having a conversation with you. So he seems incredibly, casually contagious and honest in his insights and his looks. The best thing I actually, what drew me to giving them a call and putting them on the show was his bare feet and his laugh and his intense research. So in his latest book, Deep Awake and the Soul Story, offers a revolutionary approach to the awakening for the 21st century and a visionary understanding of the nature of reality. It really kind of had to really look it up Tim because it invoked a different sort of thinking about it, right? Because itвЂ™s reoccurring. He has an innovative perspective on the scientific theory of evolution with a fresh understanding of perennial spiritual insights.

TheyвЂ™ve been translated into 15 different languages. He has 35 books coverвЂ™s everything from Zen hermetic stuff to Gnosticism. Tim has for 40 years intensively explored philosophy in the practice of spiritual waking. Our guest is Tim Freke, and the show topic is going to be a soul story for deep awakening and lucid living.

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